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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 17, 2016.

Republic of Hawaii Interior Minister

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The result of the discussion was keep per WP:SNOW. Clearly a real position of a defunct government. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

no such thing Scott Illini (talk) 22:53, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

James A. King, Henry E. Cooper, and Alexander Young (engineer).--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:59, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Republic of Hawaii Foreign Minister

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The result of the discussion was keep per WP:SNOW. Clearly a real position of a defunct government. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

no such thing Scott Illini (talk) 22:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Francis March Hatch, Henry E. Cooper, William Owen Smith, Samuel Mills Damon, and Ernest Augustus Mott-Smith.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:01, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Americans renouncing citizenship in records numbers

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:14, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Editorialized article title. The target of the redirect would not be the article people would associate with renouncing citizenship (FATCA). Mrfrobinson (talk) 22:48, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, but Americans ARE renouncing citizenship in records numbers, and if I start an article about this phenomenon Mike will be the first to nominate to wp:AfD. So does this mean consensus or censorship? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ottawahitech (talk •

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The fact you are stating is part of an article already, this redirect is actually extremely misleading because it points to ONE cause of the phenomenon and uses an editorialized headline. Secondly would this justify a standalone article? Thirdly, just because consensus doesn't agree with you doesn't make it censorship! You have some phenomenal edits to Wikipedia however not every single news article warrants a redirect nor is every topic/subject/event notable. Mrfrobinson (talk) 23:52, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the phrase you're looking for is "record numbers", not "records numbers". English doesn't inflect adjectives to match the nouns. 58.176.246.42 (talk) 17:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget - I'd be ok with retargeting to Renunciation of citizenship#United States if there were some info there about the recent trend. The stats show that this is very actively used, 74 hits in just the last few days. That's more than the noise usually generated by Rfd. However targeting it to a theorized cause is unwarranted editorializing, and the source used to make the connection doesn't really say that FATCA is the cause. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Actually the phenomenon is specifically mentioned there, so this is now my !vote. I'm not fussed over the grammatical error. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Wow! 6 delete votes for a redirect that I built because I am unable to start articles on wikipedia without running the gauntlet of multiple CSDs, PRODs and AfDs by the nominator and his followers. The phenomenon of American citizens renouncing their citizenship is real - I invite others to research it on google. It’s not news: the trend has been around for several years. Had the nominator objected to the target of the redirect he could have simply changed it to redirect elsewhere. Spelling mistakes/don’t like the article title? — Why not simply move the redirect to another title instead of nominating it for deletion where while we all debate this to death, no one is plugging the hole of knowledge at Wikipedia. Ottawahitech (talk) 23:15, 21 January 2016 (UTC)please ping me[reply]
  • Delete. 58 sums up my thoughts well. -- Tavix (talk) 01:29, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question - would there be any objection to creating a redirect from Americans renouncing citizenship in record numbers (correcting the grammatical error) pointing either at the current target or to Renunciation of citizenship#United States? If the only issue is the grammatical error then either of these should be ok. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:38, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Still POV, news headline like and may or may not be true next week, year, or decade. So yes I would object. Legacypac (talk) 21:13, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Bernie Sanders interview with Diane Rehm

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 24#Bernie Sanders interview with Diane Rehm

Benutzer:Saippuakauppias/Tibetan Names

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted as CSD G7. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:23, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unexpected redirect. Looks like an attempt to create a redirect from a subspace in the user namespace, but with the wrong namespace name, making it into a redirect from the article namespace instead. Stefan2 (talk) 18:59, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Benutzer:Marcroelans/Falko Steinbach

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The result of the discussion was already deleted via CSD. Procedural close. Deryck C. 21:33, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unexpected redirect. Looks like an attempt to create a redirect from a subspace in the user namespace, but with the wrong namespace name, making it into a redirect from the article namespace instead. Stefan2 (talk) 18:59, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Benutzer is the German for User - and the page was created by User Marcroelans - I moved the page from Benutzer:Marcroelans/Falko Steinbach to Falko Steinbach - don't know why I didn't request deletion of the original - it was 18 months ago - Please delete now - Arjayay (talk) 19:36, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Beaten to it: cheers, Legacypac. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 20:15, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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On the circle

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Sphilbrick; procedural close. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:53, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Another literal translation of a Greek word that has many other meanings and will not help search. We've deleted hundreds of these translations. My hotel could be on the (traffic) circle. We could draw on the circle and so on. Legacypac (talk) 16:12, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Psy (2015 film)

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:06, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Highly unlikely redirect. SummerPhDv2.0 16:12, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Metropolitan Community Church of Manchester

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The result of the discussion was delete. n.b., an AfD for this church closed as merge to the target article, but it looks like that didn't take place. Please contact me if there are attribution concerns. --BDD (talk) 20:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RFD#D2 confusing (and WP:SURPRISE, WP:REDLINK). Manchester is not mentioned at the target section, or indeed at all in the article. Considering that Metropolitan Community Churchis also a redirect to the same target, anyone typing (or AutoCompleting) this specific title presumably wants info about the church in Manchester, specifically.

For now, I've marked as {{R to section}}. Si Trew (talk) 08:38, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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NewYorkValues

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:04, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

POV redirect by vandalism only account —teb728 t c 03:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of supercentenarians from kansas

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:03, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

highly unlikely search term, including small k kansas. No real reason for it to exist - it was created via several strange page moves [1] . Basically housekeeping to delete it. Legacypac (talk) 02:18, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong delete per nom. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 20:16, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong meh - maybe housekeeping, but in the same aspect maybe useful. There are a few people listed at the target who are "from Kansas" (born there, lived there, and/or died there) and the lists are sortable by state, so a user searching this would find the information they're looking for. But how likely are they to type it? The page was blank when it was moved to this title so I don't think WP:RFD#K5 can apply (nobody finds blank pages useful) but as a redirect it's entirely harmless, and there is no pressing need to clean up redirects. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:03, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to List of supercentenarians from Kansas. This is a useful search term with a lack of capitalization. Dimadick (talk) 20:41, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just being pedantic: the search engine is not case sensitive. If "...from Kansas" is useful then the current title is equally useful. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 21:45, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Renaming a redirect only compounds the issue by creating another redirect. If this is useful, then we really should have a similar redirect for every state, and then start on regions like Southeast, Northwest, and large cities like LA, Chicago, Boston etc. till we have 398 obscure redirects like a former admin. created to a window article. I also see this as a slippery slope toward more of these slice and dice longevity lists. Legacypac (talk) 23:14, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
More such lists would be fantastic. I agree we wouldn't have much use for lists for each state, but having a redirect in place can have the effect of discouraging creation of an article. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:06, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, this is misleading as it implies that a list of supercentenarians from Kansas exists somewhere at that target, and there's not. Sure, you can sort by state, but that's not a separate Kansas list. There wouldn't be much to see on such a list since the only ones listed with ties to Kansas are Delma Kollar (born) and Ella Schuler (died). -- Tavix (talk) 22:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There's a couple currently living as well. Just for completeness' sake. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:02, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure? I double checked the 'living' list and still didn't see any Kansasians there. Although I did miss Benjamin Harrison Holcomb earlier (oldest man from Kansas). -- Tavix (talk) 22:08, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, I was looking at the "oldest by state" list. So, three total. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:18, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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